. >>> joining us now on the phone is len nald maltin. good to have you with us this morning. you have seen and written about every screen legend. give us an idea, where is liz taylor figure in that list? >> well, if you're talking about legends, we're not talking about necessarily actress or movie star, she tops the list because she's one of the few women of our lifetime, of our experience, who was as famous for being famous as she was for being an actress. and she was good actress, really good actress. but almost within the first decade of her career, which started when she was very, very young, she became a headline maker for her offscreen life and sometimes that eclipsed what she did in the movies. >> and she is so well known for that. used to say, that she had a way with men. >> yes. well, as my wife likes to say, she was an old-fashioned girl. she married them. you know. indeed she had many marriages. but even those were not even conventional marriages and divorces. you know, she was apparently devoted to the producer mike todd. she even converted to judaism when she mar